14:50:14 From Gulten Tepe Oksuzoglu to Everyone:
	Hello everyone, welcome
14:52:23 From Ashley Heineman to Everyone:
	I was going to complain about the early hour in DC, but then John showed up.
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14:54:58 From Gulten Tepe Oksuzoglu to Everyone:
	Hello everyone, welcome. Thank you for joining us today
14:56:24 From Lizania Pérez - COMTELCA to Everyone:
	Good morning Everyone!
14:57:46 From Laxmi Prasad YADAV to Everyone:
	Good Evening everyone
14:58:16 From HR GAC Mislav Hebel to Everyone:
	good afternoon everyone
14:58:44 From Nico Caballero to Everyone:
	Good morning, afternoon, evening everyone!
14:58:59 From Gulten Tepe Oksuzoglu to Everyone:
	Hello everyone
14:59:01 From Gulten Tepe Oksuzoglu to Everyone:
	Welcome
14:59:09 From Gulten Tepe Oksuzoglu to Everyone:
	We will start shortly
14:59:21 From Shelley-Ann’s iPhone to Everyone:
	Good morning everyone
14:59:40 From Tracy F. Hackshaw to Everyone:
	Welcome all! Good to see you here!
14:59:44 From Abdalmonem Galila to Everyone:
	Good afternoon everyone
14:59:53 From Abdalmonem Galila to Everyone:
	Hope all is good
15:00:31 From Susan Chalmers, GAC_United States to Everyone:
	Good morning/afternoon/evening, colleagues.
15:06:00 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Thanks Pua!!
15:06:15 From Jorge to Everyone:
	We just want the contractual language to be posted on the chat 😉 (just kidding)
15:06:46 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	Good afternoon, greetings from Sofia
15:07:19 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
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	Why spoil the ending @Jorge? 😉😂
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	Welcome @Iglika!
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	Thank you, Tracy :)
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15:14:58 From Ken-Ying Tseng to Everyone:
	Will the slides be shared with the GAC colleagues?
15:16:44 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Remember this is Capacity Development session … ask questions … all questions are welcome!
15:17:05 From Gulten Tepe Oksuzoglu to Everyone:
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15:18:06 From Julia Charvolen - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	Ken-Ying Tseng, slides will be posted the GAC website
15:18:16 From Susan Chalmers, GAC_United States to Everyone:
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15:18:24 From Ken-Ying Tseng to Everyone:
	Thank you!
15:18:43 From AR_Gabriela Mattausch to Everyone:
	good morning, by whom the different dns abuse are defined?
15:19:04 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Two hands are up @Nico
15:19:21 From Nico Caballero to Everyone:
	Ok
15:19:29 From Laxmi Prasad YADAV to Everyone:
	please explain abuse related to open DNS such as 8.8.8.8
15:19:35 From Rosalind KennyBirch to Everyone:
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15:19:50 From AR_Gabriela Mattausch to Everyone:
	what about fraude?
15:21:40 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
	I’ll try to remember to answer!
15:21:41 From Ken-Ying Tseng to Everyone:
	About the four actions, “Lock”, “Hold”, “Redirect” and “Transfer”.  The last one, “transfer”, seems to be a way for the abusers to get away from the first three preventive measures, in the way that an abuser can just switch registrants and get away from any lock-down measures.  Please elaborate more.  Thanks.
15:23:05 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
	Fraud is a type of website content abuse, not generally DNS Abuse. There is sometimes overlap with phishing, where a fake webstore is using a domain name to impersonate another brand or store. It tends to be very contextual.
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15:23:39 From Jorge to Everyone:
	that’s very helpful 👍🏼
15:23:40 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	Ken-Ying “Transfer” can be used in the case of something like a botnet command a control infrastructure where the names are transferred to those combatting the abuse. Consider mitigation like conficker and other major malware families where the names resolve to somewhere safe
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15:25:42 From Ken-Ying Tseng to Everyone:
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15:26:46 From Ajith Francis (I&JPN) to Everyone:
	@Ken-Ying, additionally to John’s point transfer is often initiatied by DNS operators and not the registrant and often pursuant to court orders or ongoing investigations.
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	Thank you!
15:27:43 From Ajith Francis (I&JPN) to Everyone:
	You can also download the I&JPN toolkit here: https://www.internetjurisdiction.net/domains/toolkit
15:27:54 From Pua Hunter (Cook Islands) to Everyone:
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15:27:55 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
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	Thank you!
15:27:55 From Ken-Ying Tseng to Everyone:
	Replying to "Ken-Ying “Transfer” ..."
	
	Thank you!
15:30:42 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
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15:35:38 From Diego Ernesto Luna Quevedo .co to Everyone:
	I have a question, in your opinion, what are the role of the ISP in case there is a DNS abise case?
15:36:27 From Jorge to Everyone:
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15:42:21 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	Probably spam is the DNS abuse best addressed via automated spam filters but these filters are fat for perfect with false positives blocking non-spam email message. This has economical and reputational implications. What is and can be done to limit the false positives and these implications?
15:44:36 From Zeina BOU HARB-Lebanon to Everyone:
	is Man in the Middle related to DNS abuse?
15:45:23 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	The workings of C&C networks is quite complex and could be a four hour session in its own. Mark Bowden (Of black hawk down fame) wrote a reasonably digestible book on the “conficker” botnet called “worm” (ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 9780802119834)
15:46:34 From Ashley Heineman- GoDaddy to Everyone:
	ISPs utilizing DNSSEC would help with man in the middle is what I understand.
15:47:07 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	Thank you for the informative presentation, Graeme!
15:47:16 From Laureen Kapin to Everyone:
	Thanks for your excellent presentation Graeme.  I always appreciate your clarity and precision.
15:47:59 From Susan Chalmers, GAC_United States to Everyone:
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15:48:12 From Abdalmonem Galila to Everyone:
	What the roles of different stakeholders to mitigate DNS abuse ?
15:48:59 From Abdalmonem Galila to Everyone:
	I see DNS abuse is not only a technical issue but also a behavioral issue
15:50:23 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	taking from Abdalmonem Galila's question: is it correct to see tackling DNS abuse as part/element of the so called stacked moderation? If yes, where is it positioned in it?
15:50:44 From Alisa Heaver to Everyone:
	What is the difference between the functionalities on acidtool.com and netbeacon.org with regards to dns abuse reporting?
15:50:49 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Interesting question @DRC …
15:51:51 From Gulten Tepe Oksuzoglu to Everyone:
	Slides being presented during this webinar published on GAC website at; https://gac.icann.org/sessions/preicann77-gac-capacity-development-webinar-on-dns-abuse-4-may-2023
15:52:03 From Ashley Heineman- GoDaddy to Everyone:
	acidtool is really only about identifying who the different players are with a particular domain. IE: identifying who the web host is, who the email provider is, who the registrar is.
15:52:31 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
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	thank you
15:52:52 From Zeina BOU HARB-Lebanon to Everyone:
	this confirms the need for collaborative approach including awareness for financial institutions and banks
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15:53:08 From Ashley Heineman- GoDaddy to Everyone:
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	as Graeme just noted, netbeacon is mechanism for reporting actual abuse.
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15:53:26 From Alisa Heaver to Everyone:
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	Thank you!
15:54:07 From Jorge to Everyone:
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15:54:12 From Susan Chalmers, GAC_United States to Everyone:
	Just noting that we should probably press forward because we are running a bit behind schedule...
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15:54:15 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
	Sorry if I went too long!
15:54:21 From Shelley-Ann’s iPhone to Everyone:
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15:54:28 From Jorge to Everyone:
	was worth it 👍🏼
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15:55:01 From DRC - GAC - Blaise AZITEMINA to Everyone:
	Highly appreciated dear Graeme
15:55:37 From Nico Caballero to Everyone:
	Indeed, thank you so much Graeme!
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15:56:29 From Rob Hoggarth - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	Thank you John - Link to ICANN Bylaws - https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en
15:59:23 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
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16:00:31 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
	Very excited about INFERMAL
16:00:55 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
	The DNSAI has a similar project to DAAR to measure abuse: https://dnsabuseinstitute.org/dnsai-compass/
16:01:51 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	DNS Ticker
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16:07:27 From Nico Caballero to Everyone:
	Of course 😀
16:08:18 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	Is there an intersection/a link between DNS abuse and unauthentic coordinated behavior? Is there any coordination/collaboration between ICANN and online platforms that has implemented policies around UCB?
16:09:40 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Great slide @Keith!
16:10:58 From Nico Caballero to Everyone:
	Thank you so much for the presentation, John! Mindful of the time, we’ll leave room for questions at the end
16:11:25 From Ken-Ying Tseng to Everyone:
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	I guess that there isn’t any if the coordination would be in connection with on-line content.  ICANN does not seem to do anything with on-line content.
16:11:32 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	Interesting question Iglika. Many of the platform larger providers are involved in ICANN the smaller ones less so. Focus is on the names and name resolution. This slide that Keith is showing, talks a little bit about this.
16:12:22 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
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	I was thinking/asking more about actors/conduct, not content. These are of course related/connected
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16:15:21 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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	Iglika there is an entire ecosystem of discussions on these types of topics but not at ICANN per see. Many participants in the ICANN eco system who are involved in understanding or combating abuse (not just DNS) also participate there.
16:16:04 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
	I’d linked to that abuse reporting doc at the end of my presentation, if people are looking for that link
16:16:10 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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	Happy to have an offline discussion at ICANN 77
16:16:32 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	Replying to "Is there an intersec..."
	
	Thank you for addressing this question, John
16:18:11 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	It’s a small textual change but a large change in commitment
16:18:40 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	great presentation, thank you Ashley!
16:19:30 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
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	and thank you, Keith
16:20:29 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	thank you, Nico, John already answered in the chat
16:20:39 From Nico Caballero to Everyone:
	Ok
16:23:51 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
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16:24:15 From Bulgaria - Iglika Ivanova (Ministry of e-Governance) to Everyone:
	Thank you very much, John!
16:24:17 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	yes
16:24:34 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Yes … one more before ICANN 77
16:25:19 From Keith Drazek (Verisign) to Everyone:
	Supporting John's point, there's a need and opportunity to engage with stakeholders outside the ICANN community, particularly with hosting service providers, to better collaborate around content-related online harm mitigation. ICANN's role and responsibility, and the capabilities of registries and registrars are somewhat limited in mitigating content-related online harms. We need to develop additional multi-stakeholder dialogue with these other stakeholders.
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16:27:18 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Thanks to ICANN Org GAC Support team … amazing job in pulling this together!!!!
16:27:22 From Alisa Heaver to Everyone:
	Could the next webinar also touch upon which measures registries and registrars take to prevent malicious domain names of being registered?
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16:27:57 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Thanks to all speakers!!!
16:27:58 From John Crain - ICANN Org to Everyone:
	Alisa are you asking about preventative measures?
16:27:59 From Alisa Heaver to Everyone:
	And thank you all for the interesting presentations!
16:28:03 From Ashley Heineman- GoDaddy to Everyone:
	Hi Alisa.  It is very difficult if not impossible to predict malicious behavior.
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16:28:25 From Jorge to Everyone:
	thx all!
16:28:31 From Graeme Bunton to Everyone:
	Feel free to reach out to me if there are more questions: graeme@dnsabuseinstitute.org
16:28:35 From Alisa Heaver to Everyone:
	Replying to "Alisa are you asking…"
	Yes
16:28:42 From Tracy F. Hackshaw (UPU | .POST) to Everyone:
	Thank you everyone for your engagement and participation!
16:28:56 From Abdalmonem Galila to Everyone:
	Thanks all , really informative session and looking for the 2nd one soon.
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16:29:03 From Zeina BOU HARB-Lebanon to Everyone:
	thank you all
16:29:05 From Pua Hunter (Cook Islands) to Everyone:
	Thank you so much everyone...
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16:29:15 From Ken-Ying Tseng to Everyone:
	Thank you and see you soon!
16:29:22 From Lang Wang to Everyone:
	thank you all！
16:29:29 From Ana Maldonado Cid (GAC-ES) to Everyone:
	Thank you very much for organizing this interesting webinar!
16:29:32 From Laxmi Prasad YADAV to Everyone:
	Thanks Everyone and bye
16:29:33 From AR_Gabriela Mattausch to Everyone:
	thank you very much
16:29:35 From Thiago Dal-Toe (GAC - Colombia) to Everyone:
	Thank you so much! And hope to see you all in DC
16:29:35 From nigel.cassimire@ctu.int to Everyone:
	Thank you, All!
16:29:35 From .co - Ivan Marrugo to Everyone:
	Thanks you all of you! Rgrs
16:29:37 From Susan Chalmers, GAC_United States to Everyone:
	Thank you!
16:29:38 From GAC Malaysia_Mohamad Afiq Ammar Tulos to Everyone:
	Thank you
16:29:38 From DRC - GAC - Blaise AZITEMINA to Everyone:
	Thank you every one. This was very useful
16:29:41 From Ajith Francis (I&JPN) to Everyone:
	Thanks everyone!
16:29:42 From nigel.cassimire@ctu.int to Everyone:
	Very good session!
16:29:46 From Dai Morishita Japan to Everyone:
	Thankyou!